Football Coach at PV

[Biggin]

All you do is win? Good song bad example, a sterling 91-50 this decade (that means the last ten years) Powell Valley's record the last five years is a remarkable 31-26, my seem like all that winning is going up the road to Burton, Clintwood and Kelly, who has a better record than winning all the time PV. (31-21). Just keep on winning, baby. Just always remember you are what your record says you are. Roll Tide.

Keep neglecting the fact that PV plays one of the toughest schedules around and has won playoff games in the last four years, and played for the Region title three years ago.

I now know you are trolling, by claiming Wise has been a better team when JJK has beaten PV like twice in like 10 years

head-to-head>>>>>>>>>>record

JJK has had a better record than PV the last two years; but PV has beaten them both years. If your record means all, how in the hell is that possible?

[heneedsa]

I don't troll, I swim in the deep end. You claim all you do is win. I give numbers to back it up and they are numbers you can't dispute. What Powell Valley was and what Powell Valley is are two entirely different things, you accused me of arrogance, that is funny from the most arrogant fan base north of Dobyns-Bennett, the only thing you don't understand is the days of NFL running backs walking down the roads of Big Stone Gap are over, and it is time you realized the situation for what it is, over. The Romans ruled the world for nearly 500 years but all that is left is the ruins, and stories in my books in my library. It was sad of Rome because no one knew is was falling till it fell. To soon be a footnote in history isn't all bad because some footnotes are bigger than others.

[centennialdawg]

I have but one question: Just how many NFL running backs are strolling up and down the streets of Wise? Hell, even Appalachia had someone make it to the NFL and played. Yeah, I remember Carroll Dale, but, were, are there anymore? Oh, and how many has Gate City had? I don't think I can think of even one from Gate City getting into the NFL. What happened to the famous Houseright boys?

[imported_blue52]

Chad Beasley and I want to say they had a guy that played in the NFL in the 70s? Bill Houseright maybe, I may be totally wrong on that one though

[Saluki86]

I have but one question: Just how many NFL running backs are strolling up and down the streets of Wise? Hell, even Appalachia had someone make it to the NFL and played. Yeah, I remember Carroll Dale, but, were, are there anymore? Oh, and how many has Gate City had? I don't think I can think of even one from Gate City getting into the NFL. What happened to the famous Houseright boys?

How many former LPD football players have Super Bowl rings? I think Carroll Dale has 2.:snickerpup:

[centennialdawg]

I remember on a sports hunting show, years ago, that he and a couple other pro football retirees were on. It was a hunting show. One person asked him where he was from and he replied he was from Wisconson and not from Wise, Va. It took several years before he would finally come to terms and say publicly that he was from the mountains of SWVA. So, your "native son"as you all like to call him really did not want anything to do with our neck of the woods. Not until K.Y. Jelly named their field Carroll Dale stadium, did he finally acknowledge being from here. All the other pro players from around here never hid the fact they were from here. Even Tracy Stallard, who so famously served up Roger Maris' record breaking homerun pitch, always proudly stated the fact he was from Coeburn. Willie Horton always said he was from Arno, Va.(more specifically) Beechwood Hollow. Paul Davis, who graduated from Appalahia in the mid 70's states he is from Appalachia. He, BTW, played for Oakland Raiders, NY Giants, and the Falcons.

[Biggin]

I don't troll, I swim in the deep end. You claim all you do is win. I give numbers to back it up and they are numbers you can't dispute. What Powell Valley was and what Powell Valley is are two entirely different things, you accused me of arrogance, that is funny from the most arrogant fan base north of Dobyns-Bennett, the only thing you don't understand is the days of NFL running backs walking down the roads of Big Stone Gap are over, and it is time you realized the situation for what it is, over. The Romans ruled the world for nearly 500 years but all that is left is the ruins, and stories in my books in my library. It was sad of Rome because no one knew is was falling till it fell. To soon be a footnote in history isn't all bad because some footnotes are bigger than others.

You are off the deep end, no doubts about that.

Talking about Rome, etc... wtf does that have to do with PV football?

The arrogance is to assume because of TWO mediocre seasons that PV football is dead.

PV has EIGHT state titles, only four were won with a Jones on their team. So thats four state titles without them. PV has as many state titles WITHOUT the Jones' as GC does alltogether.

Like I said, if PVHS closes of course the football team disappears. DUH!
but that has nothing to do with PV football dying, its the school closing.
but if BSG keeps a school, PV tradition lives on, and it combines with Appalachia tradition and I honestly believe that if they stay Single A, they will be back to a state title contender soon.

and why do you not address my points? ya know, the points that totally thrash your argument? Like your silly argument about records, well JJK has had a better overall record than PV the last two seasons, but who won the head to head matchups? Please answer my question.
and what about the fact that PV is in the playoffs every year, and played for the Region D title a couple years ago? A dead program does not play for region titles. So, address that before I will even entertain the thought of continuing this with you.


A footnote in history is laughable, VHSL Single A football history IS POWELL VALLEY.

[valour]

You are off the deep end, no doubts about that.

Talking about Rome, etc... wtf does that have to do with PV football?

The arrogance is to assume because of TWO mediocre seasons that PV football is dead.

PV has EIGHT state titles, only four were won with a Jones on their team. So thats four state titles without them. PV has as many state titles WITHOUT the Jones' as GC does alltogether.

Like I said, if PVHS closes of course the football team disappears. DUH!
but that has nothing to do with PV football dying, its the school closing.
but if BSG keeps a school, PV tradition lives on, and it combines with Appalachia tradition and I honestly believe that if they stay Single A, they will be back to a state title contender soon.

and why do you not address my points? ya know, the points that totally thrash your argument? Like your silly argument about records, well JJK has had a better overall record than PV the last two seasons, but who won the head to head matchups? Please answer my question.
and what about the fact that PV is in the playoffs every year, and played for the Region D title a couple years ago? A dead program does not play for region titles. So, address that before I will even entertain the thought of continuing this with you.


A footnote in history is laughable, VHSL Single A football history IS POWELL VALLEY.

Let me jump in just a moment. He was never saying that PV has always been a terrible team, he has given past PV teams props for what they have accomplished. On the other hand in reality he is right, he states that no one can live off the past victories in the present sense of PV football or any other sport for that matter. I think what he might be saying is PV is not the "top dogs" any more, the days of domination have been over for some years now.

When he uses the illustration about Rome it illustrates and draws a comparrison between PV football and the once Roman Empire. He wasnt comparing Rome to PV football, rather he was making an example using The Roman Empire and I agree with him.

I love PV football and it has a deep tradition and I also believe that with it being on a resume would help anyone and would open doors for coaches. Coach Jones, according to what I have heard was a heck of a coach when he was with PV for a number of seasons. I beleive in the influence of good coaches.

I do not believe that PV football is dead, it just needs to get back on track, and i soon believe it will. Now with the comparison of JJ Kelly football and PV football??? JJ Kelly has come a long way , but their schedule is one of the easiest you will find around here and PV has the toughest by far. If PV had the schedule that JJ Kelly has their record at the end of the year would be a lot better I would say.

[Biggin]

Let me jump in just a moment. He was never saying that PV has always been a terrible team, he has given past PV teams props for what they have accomplished. On the other hand in reality he is right, he states that no one can live off the past victories in the present sense of PV football or any other sport for that matter. I think what he might be saying is PV is not the "top dogs" any more, the days of domination have been over for some years now.

When he uses the illustration about Rome it illustrates and draws a comparrison between PV football and the once Roman Empire. He wasnt comparing Rome to PV football, rather he was making an example using The Roman Empire and I agree with him.

I love PV football and it has a deep tradition and I also believe that with it being on a resume would help anyone and would open doors for coaches. Coach Jones, according to what I have heard was a heck of a coach when he was with PV for a number of seasons. I beleive in the influence of good coaches.

I do not believe that PV football is dead, it just needs to get back on track, and i soon believe it will. Now with the comparison of JJ Kelly football and PV football??? JJ Kelly has come a long way , but their schedule is one of the easiest you will find around here and PV has the toughest by far. If PV had the schedule that JJ Kelly has their record at the end of the year would be a lot better I would say.

a) you are not him, and that is not what he is saying.

he keeps saying that PV football is dead. Not dying, dead. he says that PV will never be an elite program again, and i pointed out how silly it was to assume that at this stage.
gate city went 23 years without a state title, were they dead?
PV last won a state title 13 years ago.


b) the rome analogy.

first one, i knew what he saying. its pretty obvious, it doesnt take a rocket scientist or an iss teacher to figure it out.

but, its a bad analogy, and wrong.

rome fell over 300 years. rome was a slow, long process to fall. and rome didnt just "fall" it slowly became less powerful until Romulus was suceeded by Odoacer of Germany.(if i remember correctly).
PV has had two mediocre years.
PV played for a state title 6 years ago and a region title less than five. if PV had been bad for 10+ years, he may be right. but it hasnt, so he is wrong and thats a horrible analogy, no matter who agrees.




oh and for someone from ohio, you sure know a lot about PV football and appreciate the history awful much for an Ohioan

[gocats]

So who's going to be the new Coach? Get back on the subject and quit arguing about the past.